Reefton Jack

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  What Are Your Posting & Viewing Habits Here?

  by minimus in

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  do you come by everyday?

  once in a while?

  what makes you decide to post??

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  Reefton Jack

  It is almost impossible to post while on site.(On the other side of the proverbial "Black Stump.")
  So ..... I usually am limited to the 12 days out of 28 that I am home on Field Break.
  
  
  Jack.
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  Beards and dress clothes...

  by B_Deserter in

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  i often wonder about the unwritten rule in kingdom halls that a witness should be in dress clothes and brothers cannot have beards (the beard rule i think is pretty much us-only though).

  sure, they won't stop you from coming to a meeting in your work clothes and they might even treat you fine.

  but, if you want to go anywhere in the congregation (i.e.

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  Reefton Jack

  Even in countries where most men are bearded (such as Papua New Guinea), the WTS still has this thing about "brothers" not wearing beards.
  So much for it being a matter of not "stumbling" others
  - more like another Talmud!
  
  Jack.
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  Witnesses = Too busy preaching to care for "widows and orphans" in cong!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  growing up my mother always told us "jehovah will provide.

  " we didn't have a car, we pioneered and did our best.

  when i left school i pioneered full time with my mother and sister, we were a single parent family living on government benefits.

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  Reefton Jack

  They won't take the trouble to look after each other in that way because you can't count the time for doing that.
  Not altogether surprising, the way the WTS is always riding the rank and file about "Hours."
  As a rule of thumb, you get what you emphasize.
  
  Jack.
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  What Religion Do you Follow Now?

  by luna14 in

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  i am new to the site.

  i wish i had known about it earlier, it would have avoided a lot of the guilty feelings i felt when i was df in 1998. it's so cool to see so many members.

  anyway i wanted to ask what religion do you follow now that you are no longer a jw?

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  Reefton Jack

  To borrow a phrase from another poster on this board, I describe myself as all "religioned out" after my time with the JWs.
  
  Jack.
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  You want everyone to stop using oil but do you eat meat?

  by sammielee24 in

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  it takes 16 pounds of grain/grass etc to produce 1 pound of animal flesh which means that the biggest contributor to global warming isn't your car - it's animal produce.

  now - we can scream about those gas guzzlers and the emissions they put out - but if we run out and buy ethanol or drive a prius - then we sit down to a steak dinner or chow down on those burgers...then don't you think that its a little ridiculous?

  whats the answer?

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  Reefton Jack

  Sammielee,
  
  Excellent point made there.
  
  We may be inclined to look at things along the line that
  "my car runs on petrol / gasoline, so that is the only way I am affected by oil prices."
  
  Not so!
  
  Nearly everything uses oil (either as a fuel,as a lubricant or as a feed stock):
  - plastics
  - chemicals
  - pharmaceuticals
  - everything that gets transported by road, sea, air; and in most cases, rail as well.
  (Anything not covered in that list!)
  - and of course, agriculture; both fuels and fertilizers.
  
  The consumer pays for this - and also, as you correctly observed, indirectly plays a part in any environmental damage that results.
  
  Jack.
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  What Relgion Would You like to Be After Being a JW?

  by freyd in

  1. watchtower
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  mormon underwear .

  this is an informational site to about mormon underwear (mormon garments), what it is, and why mormon's wear it.

  there are many sites on the internet about mormon underwear that have incorrect information.

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  Reefton Jack

  That is an easy one to answer - none at all!
  
  Jack.
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  Ever had the "privilege" of ...

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

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  ... attending an international convention?

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  was it a total waste of time and resources, or did you actually gain something from the experience?

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  Reefton Jack

  I attended two "International Conventions":
  - 1973, held in Christchurch,NZ.
  -Then 1978, in Auckland.
  
  As with all Assemblies, Conventions - call them what you will - I could never see the point of the things.
  However, the way everyone used to rave on about how "upbuilding" they were, I thought that there must be something wrong with me - like there must have been a point that I was missing somewhere along the line.
  
  (It took along time for me to wake up to the fact that there WAS a point that I was missing;
  - but it wasn't quite the one I imagined it to be!)
  
  Jack.
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  What about your JW past are you thankful for?

  by nvrgnbk in

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  in the interest of self-healing and finding the peace that comes from being grateful, can you think of anything at all that was positive about having been one of jehovah's witnesses?.

  not to be misunderstood with missing something about it, is there something about the experience that has enriched you?.

  to answer the question myself, being forced to face the fallacies of the teachings of jwism, i was also prompted to look past those teachings and reevaluate everything i believed in.. that experience was frightening and unsettling, but i'm thankful for it.. i now have a greater appreciation for life in all its wonder than i did when i took it for granted as one of jehovah's witnesses.. i'm more determined now to find meaning in this life, after having lived for so long for a future that was never to arrive..

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  Reefton Jack

  I don't have to say much here to answer that question:
  - Not a bloody thing!
  
  Jack.
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  Rugby World Cup: England beat the Aussies again!

  by dedpoet in

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  rugby world cup quarter final result.

  england 12. australia 10. we are the champions!!!

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  Reefton Jack

  i have to say that both my comment and the previous poster's were a bit tongue in cheek whereas your's seems to be quite unnecessarily serious.
  
  No mate - I had my tongue driven hard into the side of my cheek too!
  
  
  
  
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  JWs Do NOT Care About Getting Converts. They Really Don't!

  by minimus in

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  if jws really cared about making disciples they would never use outdated ways to get their "lifesaving message" across.

  knocking on doors, knowing that most people aren't at home, is simply a waste of time.

  driving around from one part of town to the other side in order to stretch your time, while doing return visits is simply a way to not reach people as quickly as possible.

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  Reefton Jack

  The Society gets their money either way and doesn't have to invest in expensive means to get it.
  
  Just reinforces the point of this thread:
  
  - i.e. The WTS is NOT interested in making converts, otherwise they would be using the most effective means of reaching maximum numbers of people in minimum time.
  
  
  Jack.
  
  
  PS: and they talk about a Bureaucracy as something that perpetuates itself!